January 29, 2017 at 3:17 PM #6105
[These were my comments from last Thursday 1/26/17]
The context of my statements has nothing to do with speaking with unbelievers or baby Christians, I recognize speaking with them requires a different tact. You men that are in this room (learning the meat of the word) and these supposed “ministers/theologians” who should know better, but have bought the lie of Satan “has God indeed said?”
These past few weeks have been some strong messages from Norman Geisler, Chuck Smith and others, about the state of the Church, it was amazing that Norman Geisler, in 3 ways to attack the Bible, said these things in 1984, because he said it had been 11 years since Roe v Wade, which occurred in 1973. How much more true is it now than then.
Charles H. Spurgeon said ca 1880’s “Believers in Christ’s atonement are now in declared union with those who make light of it; believers in holy Scripture are in confederacy with those who deny plenary [complete/full] inspiration; those who hold evangelical doctrine are in open alliance with those who call the Fall a fable, who deny the personality of the Holy Ghost, who call justification by faith immoral, and hold there is another probation after death; to be very plain, we are unable to call these things Christian Unions, they begin to look like confederacies in evil.” P. 146 the Battle for the Bible – Harold Lindsell
James Stalker stated “Excessive aversion to controversy may be an indication that a Church has no keen sense of possessing truth which is of any great worth, and that it has lost appreciation for the infinite difference between truth and Error.” As for me, I’d rather be divided by truth than united by error!
In some cases, how can these men be Christians, like Harry Emerson Fosdick or Joseph Fletcher that Norman Geisler mentioned. Deist and modern liberal theologians have something in common they rip out of the Bible what they don’t agree with or believe.
The denial of inerrancy/infallibility will eventually lead to further concessions in doctrine. Those men who have taken the first step into saying the Bible has “limited” inerrancy have taken the first step, that many churches have already taken and now deny the Virgin birth, the physical resurrection, Christ atonement for our sins etc…
Norman Geisler said “Either the Bible is going to be the divine authority or human reason and experience is going to be the divine authority.” This has the been the podcast for the past several weeks on the inerrancy of the Bible.
Bill Ritchie called a minster the reigning devil, Chuck Smith, said the emerging church is and insidious thing and that Rick Warren was helping to usher in the One world religion spoken about in Revelations. Church organizations like National Council of Church, World Council of Churches, the Unitarian Universalist church, which has nothing to do with Christianity, the move away on inerrancy by the Church of England, splits in the Lutheran, Presbyterian churches the Methodist church which John Wesley would be unable to recognize today, to name a few. Those things spoken about Mormons, Jehovah witnesses, Christian Science, etc… have now infected much of the “church.”
There is a web site http://defendinginerrancy.com, which you should look at and sign the petition if you concur that the Bible is the inerrant/infallible Word of God. We in this room need to wake up and realize this is the most critical battle of the last few generation and how inerrancy/infallibility goes, so goes the Church.
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